Base Camp Rack

[bmd]

A few questions...
What are the dimensions of the base model?
How much does the base model weigh?
How many pieces does the frame break down to?
What is the static weight limit on the safety bars?
Is it possible to deadlift inside the rack without the bar hitting the top of the bottom of the frame?
How much can the pull up bar and dip bars hold?
What is included in the base model price?
Is it possible to get a list of schools in the New England area that have this rack? So i could check this out myself
Where is the showroom located?

I like how almost everything is adjustable and heavy duty. I would be able to dump a lot of the equipment i have now if i got this. But for $2500, I gotta look into this real deep. I've looked at other racks. Legend, Cybex, Powertec, Titan, etc. But all those fail in comparison with this. When i buy something of this caliber, I try to do as much research as possible. Thx

[McDaniel031151]

You should call Bert or Richard and talk with them so they can answer all your questions.

I have a Base Camp rack and love it. Pictures really don't do it justice. Everyone that see's my Base Camp, including people that know strength equipment very well, just love it. I feel very fortunate having one.

The price is more than most racks, but with all you can do with it now and with future development add-ons, it is worth it.

Good Luck and hope you are able to get one.

[Bert Sorin]

Hello, Here are the answers to your questions regarding the Base Camp Rack.
Thanks you for taking the time to ask. We realize the large investment in a rack (or any quality equipment) of this magnitude, and research is paramount. If you have any other questions, feel free to post them here, email me directly, or call us 803 750 9039, we will be glad to help you.

A few questions...
What are the dimensions of the base model? 4' wide, 6' deep, 94" tall

How much does the base model weigh? approx 400lb. with basic accessories

How many pieces does the frame break down to? 6 (middle upright is movable, an integral part of the design which allows you to change it into a double half rack.)

What is the static weight limit on the safety bars? A LOT more than any human could lift. The safety bars are made of 3"x3" 7 guage steel tubing, with 1" steel pins holding them to the rack. Static strength would be VERY high.

Is it possible to deadlift inside the rack without the bar hitting the top of the bottom of the frame? As it is made now, the top of the frame bar is 8.75" off of the ground 9plastic protection included), and a typical olympic 45lb. plate sits a regular olympic bar approx 8.25" off of the ground, so you would be sitting the bar on the frame, but only with 1/2" of space under the plate (measured off of Sorinex Bumpers). If you wanted to do FULL dead, you can just move the bar outside the rack, the lowest hole is made where your lowest bar placement while on the safety bars would be 12.5" off of the ground, thus bringing the olympic plate 4" off of the ground.

How much can the pull up bar and dip bars hold? We have done chins with 307lb. man plus 100lb. They are made like the Safety bars, so they are VERY strong. The Dip Bars are made of the Utility Pins, which routinely hold 7x45lb. plates each (315lb.). You would have to bend two 1" steel pins to bend the dip bars, unless abused, this should never be a problem. If you are doing something SUPER heavy, like weighing 350 and putting another 300-400lb on them, give us a call, we could make something custom, and we would just like to talk to you! :)

What is included in the base model price? The Rack, 1 Pair of 42" Full Low Safety Bars, 1 Pair Sandwich Style J Cup

Is it possible to get a list of schools in the New England area that have this rack? So I could check this out myself? They are so new that only a few places have them. Old School Fitness in Exton, PA have 4 of them, a few other schools have them, with many more on order right now. In a year there will be many more places to see them.

Where is the showroom located? Irmo SC 29063, we would love to have you come visit, and take one for a test spin.

Bert Sorin

[bmd]

Thanks for all the info. I appreciate it. I will be in touch.

[SkyHigh]

How does the base camp rack compare to the Keiser racks? There seems to be a ton of people jumping onboard with Keiser, which I don't know why. I was just curious to see your response on the difference.

Sky High

[Bert Sorin]

Sky High,
Good to hear from you. I really do not have any hands-on experience with the Keiser Rack, from what I understand (from seeing and using other Keiser products in the past) the rack utilizes air pressure to add resistance in addition or instead of bar wt. This is a novel concept, and probably works well.

The (MANY) differences I see are that the Keiser Rack is set up more like a typical Power rack, with set ways that the rack must be used, with little flexability, and the Base camp is basically a giant erector set that has no bounds of what the customer can come up with as far as usuage. With 1140 holes, items can ba attached in almost any position, ROM or Plane of motion. This truely revolutionizes strength equipment. The Keiser uses air to eliminate the momentum build up of the bar, something that bands also do. Bands can wear out eventually, but given the low relative cost to an air compressor, and numerous other applications for them (side torso work, stretching, rehab, pre hab, assistance in chins and dips, depth measurement, and accomodating resistance etc.) the bands are a true value for any gym. The Base Camp Rack takes up 68" of depth vs. 103" of the Keiser. Base Camp can be turned into a Double Half Rack, adjust the plate storage for any height athlete or plate configuration, ALL accessory pieces have multiple use (example: the Utility Seat can be used for box squats, hypers, step ups, jumps, stone loading etc.)

Other issues I see that may be problematic on the Keiser Rack would the the need for electric power to the rack, over all size, complexity of the system (that COULD break down, needing a tech to fix). I have dealt with power tools enough to know that they can stop working for no reason, and I cannot fix them. :mad: I feel it is better to have something that CAN be fixed or changed by the lifter if need be, at a moment's notice. We have also found that the longer you train with the Base Camp, the more exercises and applications we have come up with.

I feel Keiser makes good products, and their rack seems to be an interesting product that would have effective specific uses in a weightroom, I just feel that The Base Camp would offer SIMILAR application with MANY more options for LESS money.

If anyone has any more questions, please feel free to post them.
Thank you for asking,
Bert

[SkyHigh]

Agreed.

It's it possible to get the base camp rack in a full rack and half format in addition to platform? This would allow squatting, bench press, and platform work all at the same time.

Sky High

[Bert Sorin]

Sky High,
Yes, we can (and have) built a Base Camp that was "rack and a half" style. We can attach it to a platform a few different ways. Here is a way we did it at Notre Dame High School.

<img src="http://www.sorinexforums.com/vidpic/pic/ND/Picture015.jpg" alt="Notre Dame High School" title="Notre Dame High School"

Thanks!
Bert